Night
Vision:
Wayne H.W
Wolfson interviewed
PNG: Tell us about
the project, how did it come about?
WW:
The project is a CD titled Midnight Latitudes. It is a collaboration
between myself and Mars Syndicate. There is an online journal Art
Revolutionaries. They try to promote artists working in all different
mediums. One of the things they offer is an online radio AR RADIO. It
had been featuring a piece I had done several years ago with Boston
based producer/composer Grenadier. Although I only consider myself an
author, the piece was not the typical spoken word fare. When ever I am
interviewed or just asked by a journal for a blurb about my main source
of inspiration, I have always said music. These things must have made
me seem approachable to musicians. We had a bunch of informal meetings
initially to see what we could come up with. In a very short amount of
time it became apparent we could do something worth while.
PNG: What is it all
about? How is it connected to poetry?
WW:
The album is a concept one. It figures around an anti-hero known only
as “The Detective”. A lot of things are kept vague,
non-linear story line with certain images and words which are
constantly looping back and referencing other events taking place
within the world of music and story found here. As an example, the very
first track you hear someone running to a car in the rain, the radio is
fiddled with, a brief melody is heard, then the first piece is about a
man leaving a woman. There is a definite story, but did the man already
leave the woman and was running to car in the start of the album or is
he now on his way to do so. Another example of the constant
looping back, the melody he hears on the radio is then hummed by man
and woman as “their song” in next piece. Was it
really
their song, or did his mind just fill in that space with the brief
snatch of song heard on radio. There is a definite story, although it
is not traditional narrative taking the audience from points A to Z.
I
think some of the best modern poets did the same thing. Cesare Pavese
(1908-1950) would often have poems which bordered on being short
stories, stories where there was a plot but things were left semi-open,
semi-opaque. In France some of the creators of the Anti-Novel (Nathalie
Sarraute, A l’Aine Robe Grille) were authors who painted
pictures
with words but left a certain elasticity to the where and when of what
was going on with the characters and their world. This is something I
think poetry is moving away from, an image standing for something and
yet not being rigidly locked into place. I think too, for any work of
art where you want people to be able to go back to it again and again,
the lion’s share of the tension should not derive from
finding
out “what happens next”. Largely, we avoided that
in the
way the story is told.
PNG: What were your
working methods like?
WW:
The very first thing we had established as a rule for the project was
that we wanted people to be able to give it multiple listens. A lot of
comedy albums and spoken word albums, no matter how big a fan of the
artist you are, a listen or two a year is all that is really
necessary. We did not want music or words to take precedence,
one
over the other. Mood was also the most important aspect of the project
overall.
We
have several people doing vocals, the pieces are sometimes acted,
sometimes sung. The text was a mix of poems and short stories which I
then made into a sort of script for everybody. There are things in the
script, a synopsis, which is nowhere on the album or in linear notes,
but it made things easier for everyone, to sort of visualize where this
guy was. By the time we were recording the third piece, it very much
became like actors showing up for a shoot, no longer did the emotional
landscape of the characters have to be painted beforehand to capture
the right emotional resonance.
The
music too is a key ingredient. As opposed to my last project, this is
mainly acoustic instruments. There are a few sound samples here and
there, but mostly it is real people playing acoustic instruments which
provide an ambient warmth to the over all sound that machines just can
not capture. We decided from the start too, that this story takes place
in a sort of timeless Argentina. I liked the idea of The Detective
being a sort of European expatriate. Argentina, seemed the logical
choice to me, you had things about it that made it sort of like Europe,
but then just when you could almost forget where you are, there would
be a custom or something which reminded you, you are not home. The
vague familiarity of sitting in European café but not being
in
Europe I thought would make for an effective feeling of dream like
alienation. The time/year is never stated or alluded to and really
neither is geographic location. The landscape is reflected somewhat
through the words but more so through the music. There is a very Astor
Pizzola melancholy romanticism running through all of it, providing a
unified feel.
PNG: How did this
project effect your writing?
WW:
If you took the lyrics to a popular song, they are not always
compelling by themselves. A lot of lyrics when presented just as a poem
would be rejected by an editor. And some of the best poems may have too
much going on in them to do anything with verbally. There has always
been this dichotomy between what writing could make good spoken word
material and the high art which seems destined to be trapped on the
page. I know with my writing, the way it often rapidly shifts tense and
contains inner musings of the characters, it would be hard to pull off
in a performance type medium. This project has truly shown me a third
way. I can keep the complexity, but still be understood in any sort of
performance type of thing. All that aside, the project has gotten my
juices flowing, in that, all during the creation of Midnight Latitudes
I was doing all kinds of writing outside the project.
PNG: Where can we
find the CD?
WW:
It will be coming out in late spring. The news section of my site will
have a release announcement. It will be available pretty much
everywhere else you buy CDs. I know Mars Syndicate is in the middle of
doing a new site too, they will also have an announcement.
Being a huge fan of
jazz, when we recorded the
album there were some definite moments of lyrical improvisation on my
part.
Text
from the first single.
Via
Reggio Wayne H.W
Wolfson
Winter
reminds me of death. Spit the
words out of my mouth, so much rotten fruit. Fall is
coming. The night
crawls on its many legs, Jesus loves me for my crimes. The odd
hours before leaving. Always awkward, as if caught in mid crime. Crime
of passion, Autumn, fall. I
will take my coffee on the deck one last time. As always you can
pretend to have just remembered how I like it. I hum that
song. Please, do not say “ours”. On
the table, left alone, the pages of the magazine stroke the air. Thinking of
home, Ulysses and his kitchen herb garden left unattended. The perfume
of mint is cooler than what little shade is to be found. Say goodbye
like it is important. Know full well it is the best that I can do. In her
people’s tongue her name means “To go, to
cry”. I would do
one and cause the other.
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